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Geoffrey Hinton quote, May 15, 2025

Nobel laureate in Physics 2024, University of Toronto · May 15, 2025 · Interview, Nobel Prize Conversations podcast

I think actually for fundamental original research, universities are better than the big companies.

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Geoffrey Hinton, Nobel laureate in Physics 2024, University of Toronto
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Nobel Prize Conversations podcast
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